Online interview Russ Cogdell, guitarist for Zao
September 29, 2004

Zao, one of the fathers of underground Christian metal and they have now hit into the secular market with their first release from Ferret Records.  The concept album, The Funeral of God, has started controversy with some and inspired others.  We had a chance to chat with Russ via email about their latest project and their recent trip to Europe.

Dennis: Hey man, thanks a ton for taking the time to do this interview with us during your busy schedule. How did you guys comes up with the name Zao and what does it  mean?
Russ: The name Zao was thought of first by Zao's first singer Eric Reeder. It
means alive or to have life in Greek.

Dennis: Congrats on the sign up with Ferret!! Now that you guys have made it to a secular label how or will this change your focus in the future?
Russ: The people at Ferret are awesome, and seeing they also are in a really good touring band, they know how the music industry works first hand. So it's nice to have people backing your band with understanding what it is like to be in a band and the problems that might occur. Ferret has allowed us to do more things that we couldn't do before. As far as what we wanted to do with the concept album for example. It is nice to have a little more freedom than we did in the past.

Dennis: "The Funeral of God", in my humble opinion, is the greatest Zao album ever!  The intensity and mixing is brutal, chaotic and poetic all at the same time!  For those that may be reading this interview or review of the album could you give us the background on the concept of the album? And what is your favorite Zao album?
Russ: The Funeral Of God started as a dream that our singer had one night. What if God had let himself die and what would our lives be like knowing there was a God and being able to have complete control of our free will. Although this really would never happen, the concept was brought out to make the listener think twice about his or her beliefs. This happens to be, I could say, the whole band's favorite album because we had a lot of time to write and record in which other times we were rushed. It was fun to take a lot of time
and focus our creativity.

Dennis: One thing I noticed when reading the lyrics for "The Funeral of  God" was the incredible amount of conviction that I have for sin in my  life. Knowing the background of Zao, you guys have hope and also must deal  with conviction.  What is your response to those listening to the album  with views such as yourself on handling challenges of today?
Russ: A lot of the issues dealt in our lyrics in this album and previous albums are based on situations that have occurred in our singer Daniel Weyandt's life. Sometimes our friends can be here one minute and be gone the next. God never promises us a certain time to live on the Earth. Our individual convictions are varied as everyone's convictions should be an individual experience. Listening to music that speaks to your convictions can help you deal with them. If are music helps us do that for you, then our job is done.

Dennis: There are so many extreme styles in this latest album, what has been some of your musical influences?
Russ: Everyone in the band listens to a wide variety of music. And when we start to write songs for a new record, a lot of what we are listening to at the time is what comes out as we write. We listen to anything from Nick Cave, Danzig, Johnny Cash, Bjork, Nightwish, They Might Be Giants, The Cranberries, and even Rammstein.

Dennis: There seems to always be lingering rumors of Zao breaking up or the band ending.  Some people say it is for marketing reasons and others say you guys just have your own views on how things should be done.  Any thoughts  on recent rumors or break ups?
Russ: We have had a lot of instability in the past because of a few former members had lived very far from where we all live now and because of personal reasons as well. The current line-up that we have now is Scott Mellinger, Dan Weyandt, Stephen Peck, Shawn Koschik and myself. We have all know each other since high school, and some since middle school. We have also been in former bands and side projects for years which means we've come to know each other pretty well. All of us that are in the band now do the band for the same reason. We all LOVE to play and right music. Zao will keep on writing songs as long as there are fans to write songs for.

Dennis: So, I hear you guys have just returned from Europe.  How do the European crowds react to your music as compared to those here in the US?
Russ: We have actually just returned from Europe a few days ago. It was an amazing time. We didn't know what to expect, but all of the shows were amazing, and it is really cool to see how your music affects people on the other side of the planet. We have only been to Europe once before which was last year. It's great to see people come out and sing your lyrics and know the songs. It means a lot to all of us when people appreciate our band.

Dennis: So many bands of your style have lyrics filed with hate, anger and extreme offensive language.  What are your thoughts on that type of music influencing teens?
Russ: Everyone surely enough has a free will in whatever they choose to listen to. We all like all types of music. But when it comes down to kids getting hurt or even critically injured at shows, that's where we draw all lines. A lot of kids who are straight edge pertain to a certain walk of life. Many times it can come down to those kids who see other kids who might not have the same lifestyle to take it upon themselves to hurt and injure other kids who are completely opposite of them.

Dennis: As a Christian band that has definitely grabbed just as many mainstream fans, what is your advice to other Christians that get themselves in a box and miss out on ministry chances like that due to someone telling them they should  look a certain way, sound a certain way or whatever?
Russ: It is always better to take an independent stand on whatever you believe in. Never let anyone put you down. Life is full of many important experiences that you might have never experienced if you didn't stand up and be different. Many approaches lead to different outcomes. There is always more than one right answer.
Dennis:  Well, I do disagree with you on that.  On some things there are not more than one answer.  I mean 2 + 2 IS ALWAYS 4 and the subject of Christianity is a major area that also does not offer more than one answer.  The Bible tells us that Jesus IS the way, the truth and the life and NO ONE comes to the father except through Him.
Well, thanks again for doing the interview and good luck with your fall shows!

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