Phone interview with The Showdown
October 29, 2004

Metal. The one and only true word that best describes The Showdown. Emerging from Elizabethton, TN this crushing five-piece have crafted an epic heavy metal sound for listeners who enjoy hard music that spans styles ranging from American southern rock to European death. Lyrically their melodies sing of heroism, sojourns and battles of life. The result is a brutal and honest anthem for the youth of today. They have shared the stage with As I Lay Dying, Underoath, and Haste The Day. Their debut album titled "A Chorus Of Obliteration" was produced by Bruce Fitzhugh (lead singer of Living Sacrifice) and showcases a sound that will appeal to fans of Shadows Fall and Lamb Of God. "A Chorus Of Obliteration" will be in stores November 16 on Mono Vs Stereo. Git snake bit!

We caught up with The Showdown while they were on their way through New Mexico to Phoenix, AZ.  Not always 100% clear, we all did the best while chatting on the phone during the drive through the desert on the Rise of the Robots Tour.

Dennis: Hey, is the phone working yet?
Eric: Yeah, yeah. We're good now.  Can you hear me?
Dennis: Yeah.
Eric: Killer
Dennis: Yeah when I called earlier it was hit and miss.  Well lets jump into this. The Showdown, a brand new true metal band that many have no clue about.  Give us a quick run down of how the band came together. 
Eric (bass): Uh, we, the four of us, everyone except for our drummer Andrew, are all from the same town in Tennessee.  So we have all known each other and all been playing in bands together the last 4 years maybe.  Then about a year ago our drummer quit and uh that's when we got our new drummer Andrew.  His family is about an our from where we are from and he was living in Nashville at the time.  He called last summer actually that's when he started playing.  He called and asked if he could do show shows as a fill in for some shows we had booked right after our drummer quit. Everything just worked out really great.  He has stuck with us and stayed in the band so we've had this line up for a little over a year now.

Dennis: How you came up with the name the Showdown?
New voice: Hello.
Dennis: Who's this?
New Voice: This is Josh, guitar and vocals..

Dennis: Oh, cool.  How did you guys come up with the name The Showdown. 
Josh: Well, before we were, well we really changed style suddenly.  At one point we were called 2540.  It was a reference to Matthew 25:40 and it was really a pop punk name. We weren't really interested in that anymore. We just brainstormed for a month or so and this name was the only thing that really stuck that nobody really hated basically.  The band especially lyrically, we are really interested in spiritual warfare and that intrigues us so it links into that as well.
Dennis: Wait a minute, you guys were originally a pop punk band?
Josh: Yeah, like nobody in this band are original members.  Really when it started it was two other original members and they were a big bad religious band.  Once things changed we turned into a metal core band and now we got our new drummer and we are able to get where we are now.

Dennis: In about 2 weeks Mono Vs Stereo will be releasing your debut cd called A Chorus of Obliteration.  How did you guys team with the label and was it having a Bruce Fitzhugh of Living Sacrifice producing?
Josh: Well, uh, as far as Mono vs Stereo, Brad actually found us by looking on mp3.com, the label head Brad. He tried getting a hold of us for a few weeks and couldn't find any contact info. It was not really an updated page. He eventually found the web page of a band that we are friends with, Rapture of the Meek, and he called them and got Dave's number.  We stayed in contact with them for about a year or so and eventually things worked out. And as far as Bruce goes, that was a Brad hook up and he knew Bruce but I forget how. It was neat to work with him and he is an interesting guy. He kept the atmosphere in the studio really chilled and really relaxed.  That was the best experience we have had for sure. 

Dennis: We gave your cd an excellent and review and are also placing it as album of the month.  
Josh: Yeah I read it and we appreciate that.
Dennis:
What inspired you guys musically to go to such an extreme and true metal form of style? I mean there is so much radio metal where everything is sounding the same.  You put in one band and you cant tell the difference from the next.  With you guys it is a very distinct style of metal.
Josh:  I do a lot of the song writing and I have always been a metal head. Ever since I was 15 or 16 and heard Metallica, it has been metal all the way. We are just from a really small band so other types were all I could ever get into. All of our tastes have changed over time but all of us are really into what we are doing now. As far as we are concerned metal core  at this point is the new mall metal. It is pretty much doing the same thing and taking something that wasn't that bad and making it more and more accessible and radio friendly.  Until now all the bands are starting to sound the same. Just like mall metal, it's another phase, another trend.  It happened before and it will happen again.

Dennis: You guys are currently on tour with Mortal Treason, Staple and Chasing Victory, how has the tour been going and what has been your most memorable moment so far?
Josh: It's been going really really well. It's really shocked us actually.  The turn outs been really great and the bands are really good friends now.  They are really good dudes.  Um, most memorable moment, it's hard to tell. We just had a really good show in Albany, GA that we didn't expect. There was about 300-400 kids that didn't know who we were but they were going nuts and that was really fun.  We did have an interesting time at an I Hop in Ft Worth, TX. We were driving with the trailer and the van so we couldn't park in the parking lot. We parked across these train tracks back in some woods and we came across there over the curb. There was this woman, her car was facing the curb so we got out of her way. She gunned it and hoped the curb.  Went through a  5 ft ditch and jumped her car onto the train tracks and got it stuck there.  We had no clue why so we all walked up there and asked if she needed any help or anything.  She just pretended like we didn't even exist.
Dennis: So what did you guys end up doing?
Josh: We kept asking if there was anything we could do and they honestly acted like we weren't there.  So we went in and ate at I Hop. It was crazy. 

Dennis: On our website we have been asked by Christians and non Christians how hard core music can be Christian or how death metal can be Christian.  Many say it is an oxy moron that does not fit together.  Looking at your lyrics it is very clear you have a solid Christian message.  What are your comments on people that feel that way about musical styles?
Josh: Well, music is music.  I mean music can't be sinful, it cant be.  It is a messenger for a message. A style is a style and personal taste is personal taste. As far as for making your personal taste the basis for whether or not music can carry a certain message is pretty ridiculous.  The vibe that people take from music is gonna be different from person to person.  I dont think that is our responsibility.  I mean we play what we enjoy and we try to get it out there.  I mean it is just that, music. 

Dennis: Looking at your lyrical approach, it is almost like reading portions of revelations or a Lord of the Rings book.  What influenced your lyrical style and what are some of your more personal tracks on the upcoming cd?
Josh: Well, um, I was trying really hard honestly for one thing and that was not to sway into that metal core style of song writing.  I mean the broken hearted, bleeding wings, love and this and that.  It is so over played right now.  We really wanted to avoid that.  We wanted to do something new.  We are all big fans of battle epic and Braveheart type movies. It is just something that makes you want to go conquer something.  You cross that with the fact that spiritual warfare is very real. It is a big and important fact of every day life but we just dont recognize it's there. It is something people need to have their eyes open to because it is happening around us all the time and it fits our musical style as well.

Dennis: Speaking of spiritual warfare, now that it is Halloween, what are your thoughts on Hell Houses, Judgment Houses, etc?
Josh: Personally, now I can't speak for the whole band, but personally I think they are ridiculous.  If you try to scare someone into Christianity, it never works.  It may for awhile but the conversions I have seen from that have never been long lasting.  When you become a Christian it ought to be out of gratitude and love, not because you are scared of just going to hell.

Dennis: Looking at most bands in your genre, the lyrics are usually very dark, negative and often filled with expletives.  How do you feel lyrical content affects those listening?
Josh: What was that again, I missed that.
Dennis: Looking at most bands in your genre, the lyrics are usually very dark, negative and often filled with expletives.  How do you feel lyrical content affects those listening?
Josh: I heard all of that, I'm sorry but what was that again?
Dennis: How do the lyrics effect listeners?
Josh: Effect the listeners?
Dennis: Yeah
Josh: Um, well, I mean it is one of the most important things we do as a band.  It is something we fell that cause we carry a message.  With this type of music, unless you read the lyrics sheet you probably aren't gonna get a whole lot of it. But within this style of music there are more kids that read the lyrics than lets say a Britney Spear lyrics sheet or something like that.  The way we want it to effect them, we want it to open their eyes to know this stuff is real and we want it to inspire them.  There are some bands I can listen to and come away feeling like I could conquer the world cause of what I just hear and what they just said. That's what I want kids to feel like that. 
Dennis: That is a great response but I think the phone was still cutting out.  The actual question was how do you feel bands, unlike yourselves, that are full of negative messages filled with darkness and tons of expletives effect listeners? Say bands like Korn, Slipknot, Devildriver, etc.
Josh: Oh ok.  I know that a lot of those bands label themselves as therapy or just venting.  If some kids can identify with that, that's fine but I think it is kind of dangerous cause it harbors an attitude of feeling sorry for yourself. It's being ok with that  instead of doing something about it. I used to listen to that type of music and know what attitude it fostered with me. I just whined about it, I was an outcast and you should love me for what I am and I should be able...I dont know man.  It's just really dangerous. 

Dennis: Sometimes when talking to people they get offended when we say Jesus clearly says He is the ONLY way to Heaven but often people find this a very unpopular and exclusive statement.  Even with my personal experiences talking to some college students with in my own church. What are your feeling about Jesus and what brought you to a salvation experience?
Josh: Well, I mean that is the absolute truth and that is what we believe as a band and that is what I believe personally. It's kind of a difficult subject when talking about Christianity because it isn't an easy thing to hear. Not a lot of people want to hear but I feel most everything in life is kind of that way.  I mean you cant sugar coat everything for them and people have to take it for what it is.  I dont believe in not telling them the whole truth but some may not feel it is the fairest thing in the world. But, skirting around it and being deceitful is dangerous.  On the one hand you dont want to preach hell, fire and brimstone and scare them into it but you need to let people know the consequences and that is our responsibility.  

At this point they switched fans to another member and it became harder and harder to hear.  We ended the call with Travis and explaining to him who we were and that we were placing their album and this interview on our showcase for the month. 

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